CSLB Application Investigation Unit

What you can expect when you are dealing with the CSLB Application Investigation Unit

I received a call today from one of my readers. He told me that his application was sent to the Application Investigation Unit or AIU. He received the AIU letter just days before his test date. Fortunately, he made the correct choice and took the exams… because he passed! Congratulations on passing the State tests your first time.

Just to refresh you, the application is reviewed by a license technician. At this level, the tech can ask for corrections to the app, or additional experience documentation depending on if the classification is considered to be “critical class.” In the reader’s case, he was asked to send them transcripts of his 5 yr Architectural degree. The License Classification Deputy, which is usually at a minimum (or supposed to be) an Enforcement Representative, or ER1 is the person that makes the determination that his 5 yr degree was worth 3 yrs towards the 4 yr minimum requirement. So his app was posted and test date assigned.

CSLB Application Investigation Unit

Now the Application Investigation Unit steps in.

The investigator assigned is Roland Garcia. ER1 Garcia informs the reader that he now has to provide permits and contracts. The M.O. these days for the CSLB. Mr. Garcia also gave the reader the new party line… withdraw your app or I’ll deny you. Additionally, he told the reader that if he withdrew his application, it would cost him less when he goes to re-apply. I’m thinking? What is Mr. Garcia smoking? Withdrawing an app doesn’t mean you’re going to get your $300 app filing fee back. That is gone forever. So when the reader re-applies, he’ll have to pay that $300 again, plus the $180 initial license fee if his app is accepted. So, he will have paid a total of $780!!

Could it be the CSLB is denying these apps so they can get people to pay the $300 filing fee more than once! As I stated in an earlier post, denying apps decreases the revenue the CSLB takes in. They’ll lose out on renewal fees, etc. So, being a self-funded agency, they are either cutting their own budget, or this is a grand money making scheme.

My opinion is that they didn’t bother to take a second to look far enough down the road to determine what effect their actions might have. Cart before the horse, so to speak.

To continue,  Mr. Garcia, who at this point either doesn’t know his job very well or should be working the fry machine, tells the reader that HE will only grant him 2 yrs for his education, instead of the 3 yrs given to him by the Classification Deputy on the Licensing side of the building. Um…. I’m sorry Mr. Garcia; you can’t un-ring that bell. Once the licensing department reviews the transcripts and awards the applicant 3 yrs credit, you don’t get to change it! I would love it if someone in the CSLB Application Investigation Unit could give me a Government Code Section or Business and Professions Code Section that gives Mr. Garcia the authority to make that determination and overrule the Classification Deputy.

In conclusion, this reader is unfortunately finding out that the CSLB makes up the rules as they go along, and until someone with some sort of authority takes them to task, they’re going to continue to roll over these hard working people with impunity.

Final thought, I started my business in 2005 (I was still employed by the CSLB, but transferred so that I could start the business) because I saw first-hand how the applicants were being treated by the CSLB. I felt the applicant needed someone on their side. Looking back now, how things were 8+ years ago was nothing compared to how things are now.

My goal, outlook, perspective, desire, was, is and always shall be… as a consumer advocate. I too am a consumer, and I too have dealt with State agencies. Government is here to protect and serve, not dictate or purposefully restrict the ability of a free society to earn a living.

Until next time…

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Comments

  1. Hi Guru,

    See below for y application status. I’m getting worried since its been 3 weeks since the last posted update for “Released from Criminal Background” and I’m seeing that a lot of others received an update shortly after that. We have our license for 5 years now as a sole proprietor and are trying to incorporate. Someone we added on as a partial owner and officer had misdemeanor from over 30 years ago so we had to provide additional information which we mailed on the April 18th.

    Application is pending

    02/19/2019 – APPLICATION RECEIVED
    02/25/2019 – APPLICATION RETURNED FOR CORRECTION
    02/25/2019 – APP RETURNED – SSN / DOB PROBLEM
    02/25/2019 – DUE BY 05/25/2019
    02/26/2019 – PRINTED ACKNLDGMNT LTTR TO APPLCNT
    03/06/2019 – RETURNED APP RECEIVED BACK AT CSLB
    03/06/2019 – SPECIAL PROJECT – 7065 WAIVER
    03/06/2019 – APPLICATION POSTED
    03/06/2019 – APPLICATION TO CBU
    03/07/2019 – PRINTED LIVE SCAN PACKET
    03/26/2019 – APP TO CRIMINAL BACKGROUND UNIT-DLY
    03/28/2019 – APP TO CRIMINAL BACKGROUND UNIT-DOJ
    04/08/2019 – UNDER REVIEW
    04/08/2019 – CBU REQUESTS ADDITIONAL INFORMATION
    04/23/2019 – RELEASED FROM CRIMINAL BACKGROUND

  2. Home Builder says

    Hi LicenseGuru,

    Sent application in Sept 2018, owner-builder. I figured if they had problems with the experience, it would be an issue up front. They did ask for experience forms and permits, which I sent in December. They seemed to approve the experience, as they scheduled me for my exams, and I passed both. I received bond info, fingerprint info, and asbestos booklet at the exam site. All have been completed and it looks like Background came in ok. Now, when I thought I would be good to go, it’s being sent our for “Random” 3% investigation. This was just posted yesterday. Most others who have posted here it showed they were sent to AIU before even being scheduled for exams, not well after passing. Not sure what other type of experience documentation they could want, or if this truly is just a formality? Any idea how long until someone usually makes contact, or what typical review time is? Just hoping they’re not looking for a way to back out of approving my license. Experience is solid, backed up by City and County permits in my name. Status from CSLB website is below:

    Application is pending

    09/20/2018 – APPLICATION RECEIVED
    09/27/2018 – DD214 WITH HONORABLE DISCHARGE
    09/28/2018 – PRINTED ACKNLDGMNT LTTR TO APPLCNT
    09/28/2018 – ARMED FORCES EXPEDITE APPROVAL
    09/28/2018 – APPLICATION RETURNED FOR CORRECTION
    09/28/2018 – ADD’L SELF EMPLOYMNT INFO REQUESTED
    09/28/2018 – NEED PROJECT LIST & PERMITS
    12/31/2018 – APP SENT TO SUPERVISOR FOR REVIEW
    12/31/2018 – ROUTED TO EXP ANALYST FOR REVIEW
    01/04/2019 – APPLICATION RETURNED TO PROGRM TECH
    01/18/2019 – APPLICATION POSTED-NEED BOTH EXAMS
    01/18/2019 – NOTICE TO APPEAR FOR EXM 02/26/2019
    01/18/2019 – SCHEDULED PER PHONE WITH ALEJANDRO
    01/22/2019 – PRINTED LIVE SCAN PACKET
    02/26/2019 – EXAM SCHEDULED FOR BOTH LAW & TRADE
    02/26/2019 – CANCELLED BOTH EXAMS ON 01/18/2019
    02/26/2019 – EXAM SCHEDULED FOR BOTH LAW & TRADE
    02/26/2019 – PASSED BOTH LAW AND TRADE EXAM
    03/01/2019 – APP TO CRIMINAL BACKGROUND UNIT-DLY
    03/12/2019 – APP TO CRIMINAL BACKGROUND UNIT-DOJ
    03/12/2019 – UNDER REVIEW
    03/12/2019 – RELEASED FROM CRIMINAL BACKGROUND
    03/18/2019 – APP TO AIU FOR INVESTIGATION
    03/18/2019 – RANDOM 3% TO EVU
    03/18/2019 – APP RECEIVED IN APP INVEST UNIT
    03/18/2019 – OUT FOR INVESTIGATION
    Exam Date 02/26/19
    Exam Place SAN DIEGO
    Law Exam Time 08:00 AM
    Trade Exam Time 11:45 AM

  3. Hey guys, my update:

    12/06/2018 – APPLICATION RECEIVED
    12/14/2018 – PRINTED ACKNLDGMNT LTTR TO APPLCNT
    01/04/2019 – POWER ATTNY/AUTHORIZ ON FILE – IWAS
    01/04/2019 – APPLICATION RETURNED FOR CORRECTION
    01/04/2019 – NEEDS BUSINESS NAME CORRECTION
    01/14/2019 – CORRECTS REC’D AT COUNTER. BIZ NAME
    01/23/2019 – CHANGED. APP/ADDL CERT TO SCAN
    01/23/2019 – CERT OF SUPPORT VERIFIED BY TECH
    01/23/2019 – APPLICATION POSTED
    01/23/2019 – REFERRED TO EXAM SCHEDULING – BOTH
    01/24/2019 – PRINTED LIVE SCAN PACKET
    01/24/2019 – NOTICE TO APPEAR FOR EXM 02/15/2019
    01/28/2019 – NOTICE TO APPEAR FOR EXM 02/21/2019
    01/28/2019 – INFORMED OF RESCHEDULE FEE
    02/15/2019 – EXAM SCHEDULED FOR BOTH LAW & TRADE
    02/15/2019 – CANCELLED BOTH EXAMS ON 01/28/2019
    02/21/2019 – EXAM SCHEDULED FOR BOTH LAW & TRADE
    02/21/2019 – PASSED BOTH LAW AND TRADE EXAM
    02/22/2019 – EXAM SCHEDULED FOR BOTH LAW & TRADE
    02/22/2019 – CANCELLED BOTH EXAMS ON 01/28/2019
    02/22/2019 – APP TO CRIMINAL BACKGROUND UNIT-DLY

    Checked with the criminal background unit on 03/08/2019 and they said they were still waiting on a return from FBI or DOJ the person who answered wasn’t sure or perhaps I wasn’t paying attention as the connection was horrible. Considering how many days in February we are a little over 2 weeks since live scan was sent in.

    Anybody have an idea of current time frame on this? Are there any additional steps…..for what its worth I got into a bit of trouble a few months after my 18th birthday (24 years ago) as a freshman in college. All was disclosed accordingly.

    Thank you in advance!

    • Sounds like they’re just waiting on the reporting agencies. No one knows how long it will take as the FBI/DOJ don’t post processing times.

      • Miguel Alonso says

        Thanks Guru! Update, it is now saying release from criminal background. I called to find out what that means and she said it is now going to the issuance department. I guess that is good?!?

        12/06/2018 – APPLICATION RECEIVED
        12/14/2018 – PRINTED ACKNLDGMNT LTTR TO APPLCNT
        01/04/2019 – POWER ATTNY/AUTHORIZ ON FILE – IWAS
        01/04/2019 – APPLICATION RETURNED FOR CORRECTION
        01/04/2019 – NEEDS BUSINESS NAME CORRECTION
        01/14/2019 – CORRECTS REC’D AT COUNTER. BIZ NAME
        01/23/2019 – CHANGED. APP/ADDL CERT TO SCAN
        01/23/2019 – CERT OF SUPPORT VERIFIED BY TECH
        01/23/2019 – APPLICATION POSTED
        01/23/2019 – REFERRED TO EXAM SCHEDULING – BOTH
        01/24/2019 – PRINTED LIVE SCAN PACKET
        01/24/2019 – NOTICE TO APPEAR FOR EXM 02/15/2019
        01/28/2019 – NOTICE TO APPEAR FOR EXM 02/21/2019
        01/28/2019 – INFORMED OF RESCHEDULE FEE
        02/15/2019 – EXAM SCHEDULED FOR BOTH LAW & TRADE
        02/15/2019 – CANCELLED BOTH EXAMS ON 01/28/2019
        02/21/2019 – EXAM SCHEDULED FOR BOTH LAW & TRADE
        02/21/2019 – PASSED BOTH LAW AND TRADE EXAM
        02/22/2019 – EXAM SCHEDULED FOR BOTH LAW & TRADE
        02/22/2019 – CANCELLED BOTH EXAMS ON 01/28/2019
        02/22/2019 – APP TO CRIMINAL BACKGROUND UNIT-DLY
        03/15/2019 – APP TO CRIMINAL BACKGROUND UNIT-FBI
        03/25/2019 – UNDER REVIEW
        03/25/2019 – RELEASED FROM CRIMINAL BACKGROUND

        • That can be good or bad news. Good, they’ll let the app move forward. Bad, they’ll tell you the license/app will be denied in the near future.

          Why haven’t you taken the exams? A passing score is good for five years.

          • Miguel Alonso says

            Thanks Guru, I’ve taken them and passed both. They had the exams listed and cancelled because I changed locations to test.

          • That’s good!! Just keep checking the app status online. What you want to see is Bond & Fee Letter sent. That means they want the license bond and any other issuance docs, i.e. workers comp or exempt form, open book asbestos exam, and the $200 initial license fee if you haven’t paid it already.

          • Miguel Alonso says

            Update, April 9th. Still waiting, I’ve called CSLB a few times and they said it has cleared FBI and DOJ and still waiting on issuance. They have update their processing date for issuance to 03/25 which is the date I cleared criminal background so hopefully any day now!

          • Miguel Alonso says

            Further update, License issued! Full timeline below for reference:

            12/06/2018 – APPLICATION RECEIVED
            12/14/2018 – PRINTED ACKNLDGMNT LTTR TO APPLCNT
            01/04/2019 – POWER ATTNY/AUTHORIZ ON FILE – IWAS
            01/04/2019 – APPLICATION RETURNED FOR CORRECTION
            01/04/2019 – NEEDS BUSINESS NAME CORRECTION
            01/14/2019 – CORRECTS REC’D AT COUNTER. BIZ NAME
            01/23/2019 – CHANGED. APP/ADDL CERT TO SCAN
            01/23/2019 – CERT OF SUPPORT VERIFIED BY TECH
            01/23/2019 – APPLICATION POSTED
            01/23/2019 – REFERRED TO EXAM SCHEDULING – BOTH
            01/24/2019 – PRINTED LIVE SCAN PACKET
            01/24/2019 – NOTICE TO APPEAR FOR EXM 02/15/2019
            01/28/2019 – NOTICE TO APPEAR FOR EXM 02/21/2019
            01/28/2019 – INFORMED OF RESCHEDULE FEE
            02/15/2019 – EXAM SCHEDULED FOR BOTH LAW & TRADE
            02/15/2019 – CANCELLED BOTH EXAMS ON 01/28/2019
            02/21/2019 – EXAM SCHEDULED FOR BOTH LAW & TRADE
            02/21/2019 – PASSED BOTH LAW AND TRADE EXAM
            02/22/2019 – EXAM SCHEDULED FOR BOTH LAW & TRADE
            02/22/2019 – CANCELLED BOTH EXAMS ON 01/28/2019
            02/22/2019 – APP TO CRIMINAL BACKGROUND UNIT-DLY
            03/15/2019 – APP TO CRIMINAL BACKGROUND UNIT-FBI
            03/25/2019 – UNDER REVIEW
            03/25/2019 – RELEASED FROM CRIMINAL BACKGROUND
            04/09/2019 – LICENSE ISSUED

  4. What does “App to criminal background unit-doj” mean? I’ve noticed in these comments different status updates following this step, and some don’t have the step listed at all, so it’s making me nervous. I passed the exam two weeks ago, but this was posted 3 business days ago. Thanks!

  5. What is the expected time for cbu dly? Talked to CSLB and they say fbi is good but waiting for doj. What could be the reason for this? Thanks
    Fee # 20180107612

  6. gabe leyva says

    what does this indicate ?

    10/19/2018 – APPLICATION RECEIVED
    10/30/2018 – PRINTED ACKNLDGMNT LTTR TO APPLCNT
    11/07/2018 – APPLICATION RETURNED FOR –
    11/07/2018 – WORK EXPERIENCE PROBLEM
    12/19/2018 – CORRECTIONS RECEIVED BY EMAIL-SENT
    01/08/2019 – APP SENT TO SUPERVISOR FOR REVIEW
    01/08/2019 – APPLICATION SENT TO LICENSE DEPUTY
    01/15/2019 – APPLICATION RETURNED TO PROGRM TECH
    Exam Date None
    Exam Place None

  7. Hello. I am currently being investigated because of my
    Work experience. I have never been directly paid for my experience. My father owns a C54 tile business and I’ve been going to work with him every day since I was 17. We have a verbal contract that if I worked with him, he’d let me live rent free and take care of me. I’m claiming a little over 8 years part time journeyman experience with nothing but a letter from my father stating I’ve worked with him a very long time. I took and passed both exams but am now in talks with an investigator. She wants to withdraw my application. Is there anything at all I can do? Perhaps a notarized document stating my father never charged me rent in return for working with him? Notarized letter from other contractors that have seen me for years working with my father? Anything at all?

    09/13/2018 – APPLICATION RECEIVED
    09/26/2018 – PRINTED ACKNLDGMNT LTTR TO APPLCNT
    10/02/2018 – APPLICATION RETURNED FOR CORRECTION
    10/02/2018 – NEED DBA ON THE BUSINESS NAME
    10/02/2018 – CORPORATE REGISTRATION # NEEDED
    10/02/2018 – SOME DUTIES ARE FROM C-29 CLASS
    10/02/2018 – MARKED EMPLOYER BUT SELF EMPLOYED
    11/13/2018 – APPLICATION POSTED
    11/13/2018 – REFERRED TO EXAM SCHEDULING – BOTH
    11/14/2018 – PRINTED LIVE SCAN PACKET
    11/14/2018 – NOTICE TO APPEAR FOR EXM 12/10/2018
    11/27/2018 – INFORMED OF RESCHEDULE FEE W/CAND
    11/27/2018 – ***** USED FREE RESCHEDULE *****
    11/27/2018 – NOTICE TO APPEAR FOR EXM 01/07/2019
    11/27/2018 – RESCHEDULED PER PHONE W/CAND
    12/03/2018 – APP TO AIU FOR INVESTIGATION
    12/03/2018 – RANDOM 3% TO EVU
    12/03/2018 – APP RECEIVED IN APP INVEST UNIT
    12/04/2018 – OUT FOR INVESTIGATION
    12/10/2018 – EXAM SCHEDULED FOR BOTH LAW & TRADE
    12/10/2018 – CANCELLED BOTH EXAMS ON 11/27/2018
    01/07/2019 – EXAM SCHEDULED FOR BOTH LAW & TRADE
    01/07/2019 – PASSED BOTH LAW AND TRADE EXAM
    01/10/2019 – EVU ANALYST SPOKE TO APPLICANT

    • Dad didn’t do you any favors!! You’re stuck with either withdrawing, using someone else to be your qualifier, or allowing the cslb to deny your app and then you can appeal. I would not suggest the last option. No letters you could provide now would help you.

  8. Anthony perez says

    Just curious I passed both tests as of nov 26, I’m wondering if at this point I can expect any delays from the Aiu or the random 3% experience verification.. I’m just trying to get an idea what kind of time frame to expect. I promptly sent in my $200 licensing fee, proof of my bond which shows posted on the website, my asbestos test, and my live scan paperwork on nov 27. This is my current status
    Application is pending

    08/17/2018 – APPLICATION RECEIVED
    08/31/2018 – PRINTED ACKNLDGMNT LTTR TO APPLCNT
    09/04/2018 – APPLICATION RETURNED FOR CORRECTION
    09/04/2018 – BUS N/S NOT COMPATIBLE W/ENTITY
    10/02/2018 – RETURNED APP RECEIVED BACK AT CSLB
    10/02/2018 – CORRECTIONS SENT TO BE SCANNED
    10/02/2018 – NAME CHANGE MADE – BUSINESS
    10/02/2018 – APPLICATION RETURNED FOR CORRECTION
    10/02/2018 – BUS N/S NOT COMPATIBLE W/ENTITY
    10/30/2018 – RETURNED APP RECEIVED BACK AT CSLB
    10/30/2018 – CORRECTIONS SENT TO BE SCANNED
    10/30/2018 – NAME CHANGE MADE – BUSINESS
    10/30/2018 – CERT OF SUPPORT VERIFIED BY TECH
    10/30/2018 – APPLICATION POSTED
    10/30/2018 – REFERRED TO EXAM SCHEDULING – BOTH
    10/31/2018 – PRINTED LIVE SCAN PACKET
    10/31/2018 – NOTICE TO APPEAR FOR EXM 11/26/2018
    11/26/2018 – EXAM SCHEDULED FOR BOTH LAW & TRADE
    11/26/2018 – PASSED BOTH LAW AND TRADE EXAM

    • You should be free and clear. If they were going to send you to experience verification, it would have happened a month ago. This issuance unit is running about 2 weeks behind. You could expect your number by the end of next week. You’ll know when it’s been issued because the BBB will call you in an attempt to get you to join. Just say no! 🙂

  9. What can i expect from here on out that they routed me to Analyst?

    Application is pending

    10/23/2018 – APPLICATION RECEIVED
    11/01/2018 – PRINTED ACKNLDGMNT LTTR TO APPLCNT
    11/08/2018 – APPLICATION RETURNED FOR CORRECTION
    11/08/2018 – NEED DBA AFTER CORP NAME
    11/08/2018 – CONSTRUCTION PROJECT EXPERIENCE
    11/08/2018 – NEEDED TO SUPPORT SELF EMPLOYMENT
    11/28/2018 – ROUTED TO EXP ANALYST FOR REVIEW

    • Hello Mikki,

      Sounds like they asked you to complete the B Project List forms. If you submitted those, they are being reviewed by the analyst. When they are done they’ll send it back to the license tech who will give you further direction or post your app for the exams.

  10. Application is pending
    Hey Guru what would be the next step to this?

    08/15/2018 – APPLICATION RECEIVED
    08/29/2018 – PRINTED ACKNLDGMNT LTTR TO APPLCNT
    09/06/2018 – APPLICATION POSTED
    09/06/2018 – REFERRED TO EXAM SCHEDULING – BOTH
    09/07/2018 – PRINTED LIVE SCAN PACKET
    09/07/2018 – NOTICE TO APPEAR FOR EXM 10/01/2018
    09/12/2018 – DUP LIVE SCAN ORDERED, PER REQUEST
    09/13/2018 – PRINTED DUPLICATE LIVE SCAN PACKET
    09/25/2018 – DUP LIVE SCAN ORDERED, PER REQUEST
    09/26/2018 – PRINTED DUPLICATE LIVE SCAN PACKET
    10/01/2018 – EXAM SCHEDULED FOR BOTH LAW & TRADE
    10/01/2018 – PASSED BOTH LAW AND TRADE EXAM
    10/02/2018 – LIVESCAN RETURNED BY P O-9/13
    10/12/2018 – APP TO CRIMINAL BACKGROUND UNIT-DLY
    10/15/2018 – RELEASED FROM CRIMINAL BACKGROUND

    • Hello Jacob,

      One of two things will happen. 1) they’ll either send you a letter asking for the license bond and any other issuance requirements, or 2) they found something in the criminal background reports that they didn’t like and will give you an opportunity to withdraw the app.

      You can call the CSLB Criminal Background Unit for an update. 916-255-1007

    • michael malan says

      My app says the same thing as yours got so what happened as an end result? Did you get your license?

  11. CARLOS A ORELLANA says

    Hi all,
    What does DLY mean after livescan mean?

    Thank you

  12. One of the member of our LLC has 2 dui’s (1994 and 2000). She doesn’t have any info regarding the cases including the case numbers. Does the CSLB need everything regarding those cases or can we just mention the DUI’s and put n/a for everything else?

    • Hello Andy,

      That won’t be a problem. Complete the criminal disclosure form as best she can. Use an approximate date, and complete the two boxes at the bottom of the page. When her prints come back from the FBI and DOJ, all of the detailed info will be there. The key factor is just submitting the forms with the app.

  13. Why the heck does CSLB send so many people to aiu? Anyway we sent in a app and we had to provide a additional l duty form because the employer is not a contractor so now our updates on CSLB website said received corrections made to app the tech said she will post it as soon as her supervisor gives the ok. My question is will it be sent to aiu automatically because of this?

    • Hi Brandi,

      No, if the supervisor approves it…. the app should be posted.

      • Thank you. I am worried it will hit AIU as soon as the app post. From all the comments it looks like cslb is known for that and i dont want to wait that long to be licensed.

        • Anything is possible… Fingers crossed the app doesn’t go that route.

          • SO IF MY RME HAD A Misdemeanors DUI 20 YEARS AGO WOULD IT EVEN BE CONSIDERED ANYTHING ON THE BACK GROUND CHECK? DO WE HAVE TO PUT IT ON THE APP?

          • Yes. All convictions: expunged, decades old, submitted to the cslb previously, must be disclosed and the criminal conviction disclosure statement completed and submitted with the application.

    • well thats great! my dad said he checked no because the guy at cslb said they wouldn’t consider it! My dad is my RME. ugh denied!? I am so upset right now.

      • Has the application been posted yet? If not, you can make changes.

        • I really dont want to withdraw i have got this far and everything was going so good now just down the drain over one mistake.

          • I found your app number. Let me find out who the tech is that’s working your app. If his prints haven’t come back to the cslb, the tech may let you change question 11. OR…. you could change Q11, complete the criminal disclosure form and send it to the cslb now. Send me an email via my contact form and I’ll send you the disclosure form.

    • yes it was posted a week ago. i just got to talking to my dad a few days ago and this convo came about. I never even knew he had that. I told him if he had any questions to call cslb but i dont think he wanted me to know or something. Im just stressed out should i just withdraw the app?

    • Is this bad or good?
      Application is pending

      06/08/2018 – APPLICATION RECEIVED
      06/18/2018 – PRINTED ACKNLDGMNT LTTR TO APPLCNT
      06/29/2018 – APPLICATION RETURNED FOR –
      06/29/2018 – WORK EXPERIENCE PROBLEM – DUTY
      07/03/2018 – CORRECTIONS RECEIVED BY EMAIL
      07/09/2018 – APP SENT TO SUPERVISOR FOR REVIEW
      07/10/2018 – APPLICATION POSTED
      07/10/2018 – REFERRED TO EXAM SCHEDULING – BOTH
      07/11/2018 – PRINTED LIVE SCAN PACKET
      07/11/2018 – NOTICE TO APPEAR FOR EXM 08/02/2018
      07/27/2018 – APP TO CRIMINAL BACKGROUND UNIT-DLY
      08/02/2018 – EXAM SCHEDULED FOR BOTH LAW & TRADE
      Exam Date 08/02/18
      Exam Place FRESNO
      Law Exam Time 08:00 AM
      Trade Exam Time 11:45 AM
      Classifications

      • Hi Brandi,

        It depends… is there a conviction in your past that you didn’t disclose with the application? It could also mean that they are waiting on the FBI or DOJ to send their report to the cslb.

  14. Emmanuel says

    I passed test 4 years ago but denied either way because of lack of prove for work experience. I am applying again will I have to retest again?

  15. Glad to discover this knowledgeable information (by accident) I have passed my c10 and applied for the license. I almost lost hope when they first denied for insufficient experience.. after more than 2 years again I submitted an additional experience and continued sending documents as required. I am very excited to know what comes next?

    please refer my status below…

    submittingApplication is pending
    10/20/2017 – APPLICATION RECEIVED
    11/02/2017 – PRINTED ACKNLDGMNT LTTR TO APPLCNT
    12/20/2017 – APP TO CASE MGMT FOR FLAG REVIEW
    12/27/2017 – INSTRUCTIONS RETURNED FRM CASE MGMT
    12/27/2017 – AIU REQUESTED APP TO BE POSTED
    12/27/2017 – APPLICATION RETURNED FOR CORRECTION
    02/05/2018 – RETURNED APP RECEIVED BACK AT CSLB
    03/09/2018 – RETURNED APP RECEIVED BACK AT CSLB
    04/10/2018 – APPLICATION POSTED
    04/11/2018 – PRINTED LIVE SCAN PACKET
    04/27/2018 – EXTENDED VOID DATE
    10/10/2019 – ******* 18 MONTH VOID DATE *******

  16. My aiu investigator is ana galendo. I been trying to reach her 5 weeks now no response. Anyone have her as well?

    • CSLB AIU investigators are notorious for not communicating with applicants. I don’t know if it’s because their case loads are too big, or they just don’t give a crap. One thing is for sure… they have zero customer service skills. Contact the Registrar and let him know his staff is dropping the ball…. again. david.fogt@cslb.ca.gov

  17. And before they cleared me they asked a few questions from when I was 18 then cleared me to take test

  18. I 100 % percent did live scan Doj/ FBI all came back so they did receive it!!!!!

  19. Thanks I’ll be waiting. The anxiety is overwhelming lol thanks again

  20. The CSLB on my status shows clear for issuance I been waiting for my c-33 now over three months what does that mean clean app for issuance am I close to getting lic

    • That’s a good thing! Have you completed the fingerprinting, submitted the bond, the asbestos open book exam, and submitted a workers comp cert or the exemption form? All of those items are needed before the license can be issued.

      • Yes I did the bond workers comp cert and esbestos book exam , when it says clear for issuance that was 2-15-2018 it’s now 3-24-2018 just wondering how long after I’ll receive my Lic. I passed my trade and law 12-27-18 and was told it would take 5 to 6 weeks. I guess I’m just nervous. Do you know what happens next?
        Thx

  21. The CSLB on my status shows clear for issuance I been waiting for my c-33 now over three months

  22. Hello
    well after 3 months of nothing I finally noticed a change on the status page… is the following any indication of being out of AIU or am I I just in both units now?

    Application Status

    Application is pending

    06/12/2017 – APPLICATION RECEIVED
    06/22/2017 – PRINTED ACKNLDGMNT LTTR TO APPLCNT
    06/27/2017 – RETURNED BY POST OFFICE, RESENT
    07/19/2017 – APP SENT TO SUPERVISOR FOR GEN “A”
    07/21/2017 – ROUTED TO EXP ANALYST FOR REVIEW
    07/24/2017 – APPLICATION RETURNED TO PROGRM TECH
    07/31/2017 – APPLICATION POSTED
    07/31/2017 – REFERRED TO EXAM SCHEDULING – BOTH
    08/01/2017 – NOTICE TO APPEAR FOR EXM 08/23/2017
    08/01/2017 – PRINTED LIVE SCAN PACKET
    08/07/2017 – APP TO AIU FOR INVESTIGATION
    08/07/2017 – APP RECEIVED IN APP INVEST UNIT
    08/08/2017 – OUT FOR INVESTIGATION
    08/23/2017 – EXAM SCHEDULED FOR BOTH LAW & TRADE
    08/23/2017 – PASSED BOTH LAW AND TRADE EXAM
    11/17/2017 – APP TO CRIMINAL BACKGROUND UNIT-DLY
    11/17/2017 – APP TO CRIMINAL BACKGROUND UNIT-DLY
    01/30/2019 – ******* 18 MONTH VOID DATE *******

    • Looks like you’re still in the AIU. Generally there would be a comment that says it was returned to the tech when the AIU is done.

      • Just wanted to give you an update Phil and say thank you for helping me through some dark AIU days!!

        08/07/2017 – APP TO AIU FOR INVESTIGATION
        08/07/2017 – APP RECEIVED IN APP INVEST UNIT
        08/08/2017 – OUT FOR INVESTIGATION
        08/23/2017 – EXAM SCHEDULED FOR BOTH LAW & TRADE
        08/23/2017 – PASSED BOTH LAW AND TRADE EXAM
        11/17/2017 – APP TO CRIMINAL BACKGROUND UNIT-DLY
        11/17/2017 – APP TO CRIMINAL BACKGROUND UNIT-DLY
        11/28/2017 – APP TO CRIMINAL BACKGROUND UNIT-DOJ
        12/05/2017 – UNDER REVIEW
        12/05/2017 – RELEASED FROM CRIMINAL BACKGROUND
        12/15/2017 – APPLICATION CLEARED FOR PROCESSING
        12/15/2017 – APPLICATION RELEASED FROM AIU
        12/15/2017 – APPLICATION RETURNED TO PROGRM TECH
        12/15/2017 – CLEAR APP FOR ISSUANCE
        12/19/2017 – MANUAL BOND AND FEE LETTER SENT
        12/19/2017 – NEED THE INITIAL LICENSE FEE
        12/19/2017 – NEED CONTRACTORS BOND
        12/19/2017 – NEED WORKERS COMP CERT OR EXEMPTION
        12/19/2017 – NEED ASBESTOS BOOKLET
        03/19/2018 – EXTENDED VOID DATE
        01/30/2019 – ******* 18 MONTH VOID DATE *******

  23. Nickie Evans says

    Application is pending

    05/08/2017 – APPLICATION RECEIVED
    05/18/2017 – PRINTED ACKNLDGMNT LTTR TO APPLCNT
    06/19/2017 – APP TO CASE MGMT FOR FLAG REVIEW
    07/03/2017 – INSTRUCTIONS RETURNED FRM CASE MGMT
    07/03/2017 – AIU REQUESTED APP TO BE POSTED
    07/07/2017 – APPLICATION RETURNED FOR CORRECTION
    07/07/2017 – BUS N/S NOT COMPATIBLE W/CLS/ENTITY
    07/07/2017 – WORK CERT START DATE BEYOND 10 YRS
    08/07/2017 – RETURNED APP RECEIVED 07/24/2017
    08/07/2017 – NAME CHANGE MADE
    08/07/2017 – ADDM APP TO CHANGE BUS NAME
    08/07/2017 – CORRECTED WORK CERTS
    08/07/2017 – CORRECTIONS SENT TO BE SCANNED
    08/07/2017 – APPLICATION POSTED
    08/07/2017 – REFERRED TO EXAM SCHEDULING – BOTH
    08/08/2017 – PRINTED LIVE SCAN PACKET
    08/08/2017 – NOTICE TO APPEAR FOR EXM 08/29/2017
    08/17/2017 – APP TO AIU FOR INVESTIGATION
    08/17/2017 – APP RECEIVED IN APP INVEST UNIT
    08/17/2017 – OUT FOR INVESTIGATION
    08/29/2017 – EXAM SCHEDULED FOR BOTH LAW & TRADE
    08/29/2017 – PASSED BOTH LAW AND TRADE EXAM
    02/06/2019 – ******* 18 MONTH VOID DATE *******

    We have sent in w2 to prove experience, the investigator even verified she got them. Now there has been NOTHING!! What do we do. We have been emailing and leaving voice messages to get an update (no response)

    • You could contact the Registrar, who used to be the Chief of enforcement. David.Fogt@dca.ca.gov He should be able to contact his staff to force a reply. Or… you could contact your State Representative and file a complaint with their office. The CSLB has historically responded quickly to political requests. http://findyourrep.legislature.ca.gov/

      • Yup Mine is still out for investigation as well I have had absolutely no contact since providing docs this is maddening and beyond stressful.

        • The Case Management Unit is notorious for their lack of communication. I guessing it’s because they are overloaded with case files. But that shouldn’t excuse their disregard for communication and customer service. You would think they’d want to get the cases off their desk asap.

    • Hi guys I was just hoping I find out if any of you guys have made it out of investigation yet I have still have not any word and am just wondering if anyone else has. Thanks.

  24. Hi I have spent a lot of time reading your post to many people and they have provided some relief. Right now my application is “Out for investigation” it has been 1 month to the date since it was put in that status. Since then I have taken and passed both my law and trade test (class A) I have spoken with the investigator (once) theand provided her with my W2’s from my work, they carry the same license, I was a lucky 3 percenter as well. My question is should I pay to have my lives an done could that be holding up the investigation I just hate to pay $80 only to have to pull my application because of what my work may have said to them (I cannot imagine they were very helpful as they are not a fan of direct competition). Please any insight here would be so appreciated as I have tried to reach out to the investigator a few times since passing the test and providing the requested docs but they do not return calls or emails. How long can this be out for investigation??

    • Online status…
      Application is pending

      06/12/2017 – APPLICATION RECEIVED
      06/22/2017 – PRINTED ACKNLDGMNT LTTR TO APPLCNT
      06/27/2017 – RETURNED BY POST OFFICE, RESENT
      07/19/2017 – APP SENT TO SUPERVISOR FOR GEN “A”
      07/21/2017 – ROUTED TO EXP ANALYST FOR REVIEW
      07/24/2017 – APPLICATION RETURNED TO PROGRM TECH
      07/31/2017 – APPLICATION POSTED
      07/31/2017 – REFERRED TO EXAM SCHEDULING – BOTH
      08/01/2017 – NOTICE TO APPEAR FOR EXM 08/23/2017
      08/01/2017 – PRINTED LIVE SCAN PACKET
      08/07/2017 – APP TO AIU FOR INVESTIGATION
      08/07/2017 – APP RECEIVED IN APP INVEST UNIT
      08/08/2017 – OUT FOR INVESTIGATION
      08/23/2017 – EXAM SCHEDULED FOR BOTH LAW & TRADE
      08/23/2017 – PASSED BOTH LAW AND TRADE EXAM
      01/30/2019 – ******* 18 MONTH VOID DATE *******

    • If you are in “contact” with the investigator, you’re ahead in the game. Do you have her name and direct phone number? You could also call the case management unit and ask them for an update. 916 255 4027

      I would wait on the prints until they send the app back to the tech and that person posts the app. How long that could take ?? It depends on the investigators case load, is she on vacation, etc.

      • You know it’s funny you said vacation because that’s what I was starting to think I have tried to contact her once a week since passing my test with no response. You know the big thing I’m worried about is the description of my job duties that my work provided. I am worried they didn’t list my activities as class A type if they didn’t is there a way to rectify that I mean I have been doing this work since I was a teenager (about 19 years now) and to be brought down by the last company I worked for will kill me. Anyway thank you for the advise.it does help us lowly applicants out here 🙂

        • Unfortunately I’ve seen that all to often where the employer doesn’t back up what you submitted on the application for experience. If the employer does that (screw you) you could be toast. Hopefully you have an investigator that will work with you…. if/when you hear from her again. Call that number I gave you and ask if the investigator is on vaca or just buried in cases.

  25. Gavin Allan says

    hell,

    I have a gen b and sent in app for c10 now they post this:

    Application is pending
    07/03/2017 – APPLICATION RECEIVED
    07/17/2017 – PRINTED ACKNLDGMNT LTTR TO APPLCNT
    07/20/2017 – APPLICATION POSTED
    07/20/2017 – REFERRED TO EXAM SCHEDULE – TRADE
    07/21/2017 – NOTICE TO APPEAR FOR EXM 08/23/2017
    07/27/2017 – APP TO AIU FOR INVESTIGATION
    07/27/2017 – RANDOM 3% TO EVU
    07/28/2017 – APP RECEIVED IN APP INVEST UNIT
    07/28/2017 – OUT FOR INVESTIGATION
    08/23/2017 – EXAM SCHEDULED FOR TRADE ONLY
    01/19/2019 – ******* 18 MONTH VOID DATE *******

    What does this mean?

    G

    • Sorry for the late reply. That means your app was “randomly” pulled for a secondary review. They’ll be asking you for documents to prove your experience. Click here to review the documents they’ll ask for.

      • Gavin Allan says

        thank you for the response. I hold a general b license. that means I’m allowed to do electrical and other trades. seems like more hoops to jump through for no reason…

        G

        • With the B, your contracts must include at least two unrelated trades, neither of which can be framing. Holding the C10 would allow you to advertise specifically for electrical work.

  26. Hi,

    It appears that my application was sent to the AIU immediately after being approved to test. I tested yesterday and passed easily, completing both the law and trade exams in less than an hour and a half. I didn’t receive the mailer from CSLB stating that my application was sent to EVU until after finishing the test. I didn’t see the status update that it’s going to AIU until today.

    I’m applying for a low voltage (C7) license, and already have existing low voltage and electrical licenses in two other states (not ones that reciprocate with CA). I’ve held an active low voltage contractor’s license in at least 1 state since 2011.

    I faxed 66 pages of 1099s, W2s, permits, contracts, and copies of my other licenses from 2010-2016 yesterday. I left a voicemail for the EVU analyst yesterday before sending the paperwork, but never received a response. I have my fax confirmation, but now that I’m seeing what AIU entails, I’m a little nervous. Should I print everything and send it certified mail? Any other tips on how to expedite this process?

    Thanks,

    Matt

    07/11/2017 – ARMED FORCES EXPEDITE APPROVAL
    07/11/2017 – APPLICATION POSTED-NEEDS BOTH EXAMS
    07/12/2017 – PRINTED ACKNLDGMNT LTTR TO APPLCNT
    07/12/2017 – PRINTED LIVE SCAN PACKET
    07/12/2017 – NOTICE TO APPEAR FOR EXM 07/17/2017
    07/12/2017 – SCHEDULED PER PHONE-REQ 7/17
    07/13/2017 – APP TO AIU FOR INVESTIGATION
    07/13/2017 – RANDOM 3% TO EVU
    07/13/2017 – APP RECEIVED IN APP INVEST UNIT
    07/13/2017 – OUT FOR INVESTIGATION
    07/17/2017 – EXAM SCHEDULED FOR BOTH LAW & TRADE
    07/17/2017 – PASSED BOTH LAW AND TRADE EXAM

    • Seems you were one of the lucky chosen few that get to go through the experience verification unit. They have a backlog that isn’t publicized, so I wouldn’t get too worried at this point. With your experience and other licenses, you shouldn’t have a problem.

      Once your file is assigned to an investigator, they should reach out to you.

      • I actually was told by my investigator over a month ago that she was done with her report, but there has still been no update at all to my status since 2017-09-17. Any suggestions on if/how I should try to escalate this? I tried calling the main number and they said to just talk to the investigator.

        • Hi Matt,

          Do you have the name of the tech that was processing your app? They should be able to see where the app is in the process. If you know his/her name and don’t have their phone number or email, I can help you with that.

  27. Hello, now I’ve been waiting over 90 days for my c-10 license and it’s still pending. I’ve called several times to Sacramento and they say I have to wait till DOJ sends it out, my bond is done and exams etc. Everything is ready to go, but why is it it taking so long to send my license.??

    • Hello Lou,

      Periodically the DOJ gets backlogged or short staffed and their processing of digital fingerprints comes to a grinding halt. Unfortunately there is nothing anyone can do about it. It’s just a hurry up and wait game.

  28. This is what our status is saying…..I am currently studying for the exam in three weeks but under investigation. They didn’t credit me anytime at all. I have been self employed for 6 years and during that time worked for electrical contractors. I also have years of experience before being self employed. It’s all very frustrating.
    01/12/2015 – APPLICATION RECEIVED
    01/20/2015 – PRINTED ACKNLDGMNT LTTR TO APPLCNT
    01/22/2015 – APPLICATION RETURNED FOR CORRECTION
    01/22/2015 – CERT INCOMPLETE/MUST ENTER EMPLOYER
    01/22/2015 – OR MARK SELF EMPLOYED BOX
    01/29/2015 – RCVD CORRECTED WORK CERT
    02/04/2015 – CORRECTIONS SENT TO BE SCANNED
    02/13/2015 – ROUTED TO EXP ANALYST FOR REVIEW
    03/05/2015 – OFFERED: W-D/NEW QUAL/FORMAL INVEST
    03/23/2015 – APPLICATION RETURNED TO PROGRM TECH
    03/23/2015 – APPLICANT REQUESTED FORMAL INVEST
    03/23/2015 – APPLICATION POSTED
    03/23/2015 – REFERRED TO EXAM SCHEDULING – BOTH
    03/24/2015 – PRINTED LIVE SCAN PACKET
    03/25/2015 – NOTICE TO APPEAR FOR EXM 04/16/2015
    03/25/2015 – APP TO AIU FOR INVESTIGATION
    03/26/2015 – APP RECEIVED IN APP INVEST UNIT
    03/26/2015 – OUT FOR INVESTIGATION
    04/06/2015 – EXTENDED VOID DATE
    04/16/2015 – EXAM SCHEDULED FOR BOTH LAW & TRADE

    • Hi Kellie,

      Did you provide them with any doc’s such as 1099’s, contracts, materials receipts, etc? The investigator will ask you for the same documentation.

      Giving applicants zero time or not stating how much you’re being given is a common occurrence with the cslb. The investigator will dig more deeply than the wanna-be investigator in the licensing unit.

      If you are applying for the C10, do you have your electricans certification? Did you belong to the union?

      I’d suggest find every scrap of paper that has your name on it that proves/implies/suggests that you have the necessary experience. If you have to generate contracts and go back to clients for signatures, do that.

      No pressure… but don’t fail the exam. That will give the cslb instant satisfaction in denying your app.

      Lastly… if you get to a point where the investigator says they are going to deny the app…. withdraw it! An app denial flag on your name would follow you forever.

  29. Emmanuel Galvan says

    My app was also sent to Aiu, but didn’t get a test date but my app was referred to test exam and already went through the deputy. My question is can the tech reject my app? I already sent contracts to the deputy

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